He went on to average 14.8 points and 8.1 rebounds for six . Details about 1971 Topps NBA Assist Leaders #143 PSA 6 Jerry West/Oscar Robertson/N. [23] Baylor once commented: "Rumors are safe with you, Tweety Bird. "We were amateurs in every sense of the word. Paolo Banchero leads the way as the Kia Rookie of the Year chase begins to head for the finish line. Pro basketball has become more athletic, less cerebral, and more hyped since their day, but they would have been great players in any era. Van Lier See original listing. In a generation defined mostly by big men, Jerry West and Oscar Robertson managed to stand out from the crop. For some of Jerry West, Oscar Robertson and Elgin Baylors triple-doubles, youd think they had the worst game in the world: When Wilt Chamberlain explained how NBA basketball got diluted in quality over his lifetime, When will it be fair to name LaMelo Ball as the greatest Hornet ever!? He is a. man for the ages." Jerry West. This meant that points and rebounds would be the only stats any player couldve chased. He believes sports connect us to our best selves, and he hopes to help people experience sports more holistically. By Oscar Robertson Aug. 7, 2010 Let me tell you about the original Dream Team, the 1960 United States Olympic gold medalist basketball team coached by Pete Newell, with Jerry West and me as the co . [15] Among retired players, only Michael Jordan, Elgin Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain surpass his 27.0 points per game average. This also marked the first of three straight seasons leading the NBA in assists, with Robertson putting up at least 11.0 assists per game each year, including a career-high 11.5 in 1964-1965. With Elgin Baylor (Mr. SG. [84] His first wife Martha Kane recalled that her husband often had difficulties opening up to her. Jerry Alan West (28. maj 1938, Chelyan, Zapadna Virginia) jedan je od najuspjenijih ljudi u svijetu koarke, prvo kao igra, zatim kao trener i na kraju u upravi.Silueta s njegovim karakteristinim driblingom postala je slubeni logo NBA lige. The Celtics' Sam Jones inbounded the ball at half-court with three seconds left. Years after a game in which he hit 16 of 17 shots from the field, sank all 12 free throw attempts, and notched 12 rebounds, 12 assists and 10 blocked shots, West told the National Sports Daily, Defensively, from a team standpoint, I didnt feel I played very well. Chance of rain 100%. Tackling the Biggest Head-to-Head Sports Debates. He explained (h/t YouTube) that Wests appraisals of Robertson solidified the Big Os greatness that much more. "Race; cold war; threat of nuclear war. I will say that Oscar fits the 'all around' definition better - he was *almost* as good at scoring as Jerry although not quite matching up to West's peak scoring abilities, he was a better rebounder and also a better passer (both by . One of the game's most gifted players, Elgin Baylor made 10 appearances on the All-NBA first team. Oscar Robertson vs Lenny Wilkens. He was also at the forefront of rebuilding the Lakers into championship shape by adding Shaquille ONeal as a free agent and trading for Kobe Bryant, who entered the NBA out of high school in 1996. In some ways, the decision of who was better comes down to personal preferences on playing style do you prefer Robertson with his penchant for racking up triple-doubles or West with his silky smooth moves and shooting? Jerry West Chris Webber Oscar Robertson Mark Jackson. [17], During his junior year (195859), West scored 26.6 points per game and grabbed 12.3 rebounds per game. [15], In the 1968 NBA Playoffs, the Lakers beat the Chicago Bulls and the Warriors to set up yet another Lakers-Celtics NBA Finals; it was considered a match of size versus speed, as the Lakers had nobody to guard Celtics coach/center Bill Russell or forward John Havlicek close to the basket, but the Celtics in return had difficulties guarding prolific L.A. outside shooters Baylor, West and fellow guard Gail Goodrich. Despite a level of intensity so high it could melt lead, West was one of the NBAs most admired and well-liked figures. No copyright infringement is intended. [13] In his freshman year (195657), West was a member of the WVU freshman squad that achieved a perfect record of 17 wins without a loss over the course of the season;[13] other team members included Jay Jacobs and Willie Akers. But his all-around excellence was unprecedented for a guard. [20] His college coach was also hired to coach the Lakers. We may receive a commission for purchases made through these links. Rain. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). Oscar Robertson. Robertsons all-around excellence made him a triple-double machine on the court, and he drastically altered the complexion of the sport with a 1970 class-action lawsuit that led to the creation of free agency. [59], After his coaching stint, West worked as a scout for three years before becoming general manager of the Lakers before the 198283 seasons. Cookie Settings/Do Not Sell My Personal Information. [5] West was named as one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA history in 1996, and to the NBA 75th Anniversary Team in 2021.[6][7]. The players are bigger and more athletic now. At the tail ends of their careers. Additionally, as President of the Players Association, he was involved in the landmark Robertson vs. National Basketball Association antitrust suit that led to reforms for the college draft and free agency rules, and also finally allowed the completion of the ABA-NBA merger to take place in 1976 (the suit was filed in 1970). Fittingly, Thomas remembered the Big O agreeing with Wests assessment. "[8] West incredibly connected, and this basket was later called one of the greatest moments ever by the NBA. [81] They have two sons, Ryan and Jonnie. West was named the NBA Executive of the Year for 1995 after the Lakers posted their best record in four seasons. [64] West himself won his second NBA Executive of the Year Award in the same year. Dr. J went decidedly old-school with his selections, naming Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Elgin Baylor, Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain to the first team. Basketball, Team, School. He had finally won a championship, in one of the greatest seasons ever for an NBA team. I think I should make every shot.. His nicknames included "Mr. West lost the first eight times he played in the Finals, twice by a single basket against the Boston Celtics in Game 7s. [8] Growing up, West spent his days hunting and fishing, but his main activity was shooting at a basketball hoop that a neighbor had nailed to his storage shed. [34] Veteran coach Fred Schaus retired, and Butch Van Breda Kolff took over; under his reign, the Lakers won 52 games in the 196768 NBA season in their first season in The Forum. Gail Goodrich's all-around play from the backcourt made him a perennial All-Star and, eventually, an NBA champion. "Fans believe what people tell them.". Both Robertson and West were standout high school basketball players (in fact, both were named the best player in their respective home states) before going on to dominate the college ranks; drafted 1-2 in 1960, the duo would also quickly make their marks in the NBA. Additionally, in the 1974 Western Conference Semifinals, the Bucks would get revenge and defeat the Lakers 4-1, though West only played one game in the series. Wilt Chamberlain cited the examples of his former teammates Jerry West and Elgin Baylor to explain how in his view, NBA basketball got diluted. Required fields are marked *. Ten of the players would go on to play in the NBA. [23] On the floor, West scored 17.6points, grabbed 7.7rebounds and gave 4.2assists per game. After a slump in the early 1990s, West rebuilt the team of coach Del Harris around center Vlade Divac, forward Cedric Ceballos, and guard Nick Van Exel, which won 48 games, and went to the Western Conference Semifinals. Jerry West leads Los Angeles with 20 points while Oscar Robertson scores 17 along with 9 assists as the Milwaukee Bucks en. As his line-drive jumper headed for nothing but net, he would run off the court, clapping his hands, never looking back because it was a sure thing. The Knicks' Walt Frazier is stopped by Lakers center Wilt Chamberlain (13) as Jerry West (44) drives around them for a score in first quarter of an NBA finals game on April 26, 1972. At age 32, West averaged 26.9points, 4.6rebounds and 9.5assists,[15] and helped the Lakers win 46 games and make the 1971 NBA Playoffs. Luckily, both legends got their just due. West is still regarded as one of the best pure scorers in NBA history. Oscar Robertson vs Dominique Wilkins He was responsible for perhaps the most famous buzzer-beater of all time: a 60-foot swish that tied Game 3 of the 1970 NBA Finals against the New York Knicks. West averaged 46.3 points per game, a figure that is still an NBA record. [27], In the following 196364 NBA season, West became the Lakers' scoring leader for the first time. Only Jordan had a higher career scoring average in the playoffs, and only Kareem Abdul-Jabbar tallied more career points in the postseason. [8] West eventually became the team's starting small forward, and he quickly established himself as one of the finest West Virginia high school players of his generation. Biography. It seems that tons of viewers from certain generations uniformly avoid the contemporary NBA in a conscious fashion. The Lakers drafted him after the Cincinnati Royals drafted Oscar Robertson. Wests statistical record only begins to tell his story. During that time, West was the better scorer (27.0 to 25.7), but Robertson grabbed more rebounds (7.5 to 5.8) and averaged more assists (9.5 to 6.7) and also had slightly better shooting percentages. Working as a player-scout for three years, West was named general manager of the Lakers before the 198283 NBA season. Those two players formed the nucleus of three consecutive championship teams beginning with capturing the 2000 NBA Finals. His first season in Milwaukee was his best, as he averaged 19.4 points (49.6% shooting), 5.7 rebounds, and 8.2 assists per game for Second Team All-NBA honors. In fact, scoreboard keepers didnt introduce the concept of assists till after Bob Cousy revolutionized the PG position. 44 jersey in 1983. New York, however, won the game and the title. Estimated PSA 8 Value: $3,500. We got one dollar a day as a per diem. [8] West demonstrated his tenacity for the game in a match against the Kentucky Wildcats. [37] While West himself got on well with the recruit, Chamberlain often argued with team captain Elgin Baylor and had a poor relationship with Van Breda Kolff. "Why does everybody say the game has changed? Hence, every college game, every practice and every summer workout by 1958 became about the game within the game: winning at all costs, but also showing the world he could . The East Bank High School legend and Oscar Robertson also led the United States basketball team to the gold medal at the 1960 Rome Olympics. An abundance of admiration, actually. [15] As of 2011, West holds 12 WVU all-time records. [43] L.A. and N.Y. split the first two games, with both games respectively decided by centers Reed and the still-hobbling Chamberlain. It seems to bother the Big O more than West, this dulling of fans' memories of their glory days. West was also superior as a clutch performer and in playoff competition. I must have that tension. West was elected to the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in 1979. Every athlete goes through a natural career lifecycle, from starting off as a rookie to reaching peak years of performance and finally, declining into the inevitable retirement due to a combination of age and/or injury; from Robertsons complementary role on the Bucks to Wests proneness to injury, both players were eventually affected by these factors. From 1962-70, the Lakers reached the Finals six times, losing to Boston five times and to the Knicks once. Laker Legend Jerry West calls Redick out for his reckless. Oscar Robertson, in full Oscar Palmer Robertson, byname the Big O, (born November 24, 1938, Charlotte, Tennessee, U.S.), American basketball player who starred in both the collegiate and professional ranks and was considered one of the top players in the history of the game. Robertson reciprocated Wests characterization of him earlier this year. Both scored a ton. Moreover, the duo had two playoff matchups first, in the 1972 Western Conference Finals, the Lakers beat the Bucks 4-2 behind Wests 21.8 points, 5.2 rebounds, and 8.3 assists per game; Robertson was very much a complementary player at that point, only averaging 9.0 points, 5.3 rebounds, and 5.7 assists per game during the six-game series. "There are people on ESPN who never played basketball or even picked up a basketball," he said. Although injured captain Elgin Baylor ended his career, the Lakers had a season for the ages. [30] The Bullets took their two home games, despite West scoring 44 and 48 points respectively, but in the decisive Game 5 in L.A., the guard helped beat the Bullets with 42 points in a close 117115 win. West remained as uptight in the front office as he had been on the court. [40] L.A. also took Game 2, with West scoring 41 points. Just look at the roster: Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Walt Bellamy, Bob Boozer, Terry Dischinger . 1 overall pick in the 1960 NBA Draft, with the Lakers selecting West immediately thereafter. [41] In Game 7, Lakers owner Jack Kent Cooke had put up thousands of balloons in the rafters of the Forum in Los Angeles. The 13-time All-Star, who was dealt to Phoenix on Feb. 9, has not played in a game since Jan. 8 when he was with the Nets. [68] [69][70], On December 17, 2020, it was reported that West and the LA Clippers were under investigation by the NBA following a lawsuit filed by John Wilkes against the LA Clippers over the recruitment of Kawhi Leonard to the team. 1970 class-action lawsuit that led to the creation of free agency, legendary game from Wilt Chamberlain en route to a title, another player (Russell Westbrook) to average a triple-double over the course of a full season. In this game, he now had scored 4,002 playoffpoints, which set an all-time NBA record. As a player with the Cincinnati (Ohio) Royals of the National Basketball Association (NBA) in 1961-62, he averaged . Moreover, during that final year, he had 30 double-doubles and fifteen 30-point games. In the 1972 NBA Finals, the Lakers again met the New York Knicks. However, the Lakers and West came out on the losing end in eight of those nine Finals. ESPN has been the primary culprit in driving stat-driven basketball analysis, making the game hollow in the general publics minds. Indeed, The Logo is still the only player to win Finals MVP as a member of the losing team. The dirt-covered court became his domain. The team was powered by Sharman's emphasis on tough defense and fast break offense, and L.A. embarked on an unprecedented 33 game win streak, en route to a then-record 69 wins in the regular season. Robertson's last All-NBA first team was in 1969 and West made first team from 1970-1973. Regarding his shyness, WVU roommate Jody Gardner testified that West never dated in his entire freshman year, and Lakers coach Fred Schaus once recalled two weeks when his guard never said a word. [36] In Game 5, an injured West scored 35points, but Boston won by threepoints. Instead, there's only admiration between the two all-time greats. He averaged 27.0 points, 6.7 rebounds, and 5.8 rebounds for his career, making the Lakers one of the most relevant franchises in the league. [8] He was the fifth of six children of Cecil Sue West, a housewife, and Howard Stewart West, a coal mine electrician. For the children's author, see, In the summer of 1996, West traded for shooting guard. said "Mr. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Advance Local. West and Co. got their revenge the following season, as The Logo led the NBA in assists and LA got a legendary game from Wilt Chamberlain en route to a title. Van Breda Kolff pejoratively called Chamberlain "The Load", and later complained that Chamberlain was egotistical, never respected him, too often slacked off in practice and focused too much on his statistics. [37] The Lakers trailed the entire game and were behind 91-76 after 3 quarters, but powered by a limping West, the Lakers closed the gap to 103102 with two minutes to go and had the ball. Jerry Wests storied career included 14 All-Star appearances, 12 All-NBA honors, five All-Defensive Teams and an NBA championship. A smallish youth, West didnt make his junior high football, baseball or track teams. He was a loner. On April 19, 2022, West demanded a retraction from the network within two weeks for the "cruel" and "deliberately false" depiction, as played by actor Jason Clarke. The Royals made Robertson with the No. Although West enjoyed great individual success during his prime, the teams record is a study in frustration unbelievable frustration is how West described it to the Los Angeles Times Magazine. Naturally, West enrolled at WVU, where he was a two-time All-American and averaged 24.8 ppg. As a 6-foot senior, West became the first prep player in state history to score 900 points in a season, averaging 32.2 points. Both are the most prolific assist men of their periods. Before Game 1, West privately complained to Bill Russell of exhaustion, but then the Lakers guard scored 53 points on Boston in a close two-point win. Sometimes you get involved in situations like that, you don't realize the importance of it until you get out of it. Answer (1 of 15): I would Jerry West because he was on the All Defensive Team five times and Oscar was on none. [8] Having played forward early in his career, West was also a capable rebounder, and gifted with long arms, quick hands, and strong defensive instincts, West was also once described as one of the best ballhawks, man-to-man defenders and shot blockers among NBA guards:[23] when the All-Defensive Teams were introduced in 1969, West made every one of them until his career ended in 1974. Shaver emphasized the importance of conditioning and defense, which were lessons that the teenager appreciated. In the 1960 NBA Draft, Robertson was drafted first overall (territorial pick) by the Cincinnati Royals (now the Sacramento Kings) and dominated from the get-go, averaging 30.5 points (47.3% shooting), 10.1 rebounds, and a league-high 9.7 assists per game as a rookie; as a result, he was Rookie of the Year, made the first of his 12 consecutive All-Star Game appearances, and earned the first of nine straight First Team All-NBA selections. MIES (Switzerland) - It happened more than half a century ago, yet for two of the biggest legends in the sport, USA's Jerry West and Oscar Robertson, memories of the gold-medal winning run at the Olympic Games in Rome are crystal clear. West held himself to seemingly impossible standards. From there, he played his college ball at the University of Cincinnati, where in his three seasons with the Bearcats, he won the scoring title each year, was named a 3x All-American and 3x College Player of the Year (the Player of the Year award is now called the Oscar Robertson Trophy), made the Final Four twice, compiled 10 triple-doubles (a staple of his pro career), and set 14 NCAA and 19 school records. [12] They have three sons, David, Mark and Michael. In Game 1, which Boston easily won, defensive Celtics guard K. C. Jones kept West to the only 26 points, and in Game 2, West scored 45 points, but Boston still won 129123. They were 39-3 at midseason and finished at 69-13, the best single-season record in NBA history until the 1995-96 Bulls (72-10) bested it.. Jerry West and the Lakers won Game 3 of the 1962 NBA Finals at the buzzer. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Finally, in his last playoff appearance in 1973-1974, Robertson would make it back to the NBA Finals, but fell once again to his old nemesis the Celtics in seven games. I played on an all-black high school team and we didn't want people saying that we were clowns. And knowing what that looked like, the Logo wanted to surpass him. Copyright: RU Sport Private Limited. On May 19, 2011, West joined the Golden State Warriors as an executive board member, reporting directly to new owners Joe Lacob and Peter Guber. [23], The Lakers won 54 regular-season games and secured a first-round bye in the 1962 NBA Playoffs. Including playoff games, the Lakers record for the year was 81-16. "I did that once or twice. In 1969, as in 1962, the Lakers led Boston after five games only to drop the last two contests. One of his great joys was playing with Jerry West, Oscar Robertson and Jerry Lucas on the gold medal-winning 1960 Olympic team. Copyright 2023 Endgame360 Inc. All Rights Reserved. As the NBA celebrates it's 75th Anniversary Season, get to know dozens of star players who helped make the NBA what it is today. And also, West can still feel the sensation of receiving his gold medal. Some of these triple-doubles that Jerry West or Oscar Robertson or Elgin Baylor had, they would think they had the worst day in the world!. [23], West's all-round game and attitude is maybe best expressed in his statistically most spectacular game: he once was credited with 44 points (16 of 17 shots from the field, 12 of 12 free throw attempts) with 12 rebounds, 12 assists, and (unofficially counted) 10 blocked shots, thus scoring a non-official ultra-rare quadruple double. "That was a unique period of time in this world," he said. No portion of FIBA.basketball may be duplicated, redistributed or manipulated in any form.By accessing FIBA.basketball pages, you agree to abide by FIBA.basketball terms and conditions. Oscar Robertson (1960-1974) Robertson, also known as the "Big O," is the only . Wilt Chamberlain definitely had an explanation for why fans from his time fell out of love with NBA basketball. If you are having difficulty accessing any content on this website, please visit our Accessibility page. After a big loss, the Wests would drive home and she would try to console him, but West would say "get out" at the home porch and drive awayan experience that "killed" her as a wife. A loss just ripped his guts out. High 49F. A 112-81 triumph over Italy and finally, a 90-63 victory over Brazil, clinched the gold medal. We aren't talking Mark Jackson triple-doubles either, his apples during the 1961-62 season were 31 points, 13 rebounds, and . The Lakers seven-game defeat at the hands of the Celtics in the 1962 Finals was particularly heartbreaking. The Big O appeared on the Knuckleheads podcast to discuss his favorite players in league history. Robertsons career arc is fairly similar. "That was the most special moment in my life," he said. First up is Oscar Robertson's 1961 Fleer rookie card which is one of the keys to the iconic set and one of the most valuable basketball cards in general.. [58] In the 197677 season, West became coach of the Los Angeles Lakers. Your email address will not be published. Meanwhile, as Robertson was dominating night in and night out in Cincinnati, West exploded in his second NBA season, averaging 30.8 points (on 44.5% shooting), a career-high 7.9 rebounds, and 5.4 assists per game in 1961-1962, which resulted in the first of 10 First Team All-NBA selections. 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