Indeed Spiegel et al (2011, p.826) in their incisive critique say: Importantly, the ICD-10 describes dissociative disorders as primarily acute disorders that usually remit within a few weeks or months, and that have an onset in the immediate context of events that are highly stressful, traumatic, and/or that involve intolerable, insoluble problems. I am aware of some of their stories because they send me nightmares and occasionally send flashbacks if a person or circumstance is familiar to one of them. A subtype of consensual switches are planned switches that were agreed upon ahead of time. Its so nice to meet others that feel the same way. (amnesia between parts). The therapist in the zoom group asked a few probing questions; she concluded I had full blown DID, not DDNOS as I had believed. Then I have historical mes that exist related to the life they faced. Right now OSDD sounds like hypochondriac or DID wannabe and Its not like that at all! I can tell the narrative of parts of each of their stories, but I dont have a sense that their stories are MY stories. My brain creates vague replicas of people and it feels as though I become them (and it can feel horribly intrusive, it seems to be mingled with something obsessive compulsive), have their face and ways of behaving, but I dont take over the identity or names, so this is possibly a different mechanism. Check this PDF for the symptoms of C-PTSD. At first it was me and them. Suzette Boon reports that OSDD actually involves the majority of people who seek treatment for a dissociative disorder (Boon et al, p.10). I often describe it like I am on a system. Every time I heard something the first instinct was hide my.phone, which I haven't done in years because I'm not 12 and I haven't been doing against the rules so like, no problem. Probably not DID, maybe OSDD or BPD. Not only was I meeting people with multiplicity; these individuals entering my life were normal human beings with much to offer. This was a truly amazing article. also: switching and memory dont always get along, and brains like to fill in gaps in memory with fake memories. A lot of people dont even realise that Ive changed I just get told that Im moody or something like that. is it possible to get DID in your adult ages? Your email address will not be published. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Part of recovery it is. I have the ME that is in control of now. But what is also there is that when, for example in conversation with a psychologist in the past, when he indicates that its just mood switching, I kind of start to feel hurt and unvalidated, as if parts of me, or moods want to be acknowledged separately, my angry mood gets angry because Im not the vulnerable self or Im not that weak, fearful, kind side of myself. Littles are child alters, and are actual children. In the meantime, we will be continuing to push the idea that dissociation is truly a spectrum disorder! Non-switching systems, or partial DID as it's called in the ICD, are systems who have an alter always remain in front, and other alters can "only" exert passive influence and co-fronting. Eventually it became apparent that a few of us were able to front (like 2-3) and some others if forced, on rare occasions, or highly triggering moments to them. Switching refers to one Alter or Part taking control of the body from another Part. I feel as if there are two parts of myself (yet I fear there are other parts I do not want to hear) a dark side and a light side and that the dark side knows far too much while the light side protects the dark side (weirdly) and doesnt let the two connect. That of course is a myth, as the vast majority of people presenting for help with a dissociative disorder, as we have seen, have a diagnosis of OSDD. You might have difficulty piecing together a coherent timeline of your life. I dont know where I fit, but I do feel as if what you describe here is the nearest I have heard yet even then I doubt. Very, very rarely does it feel like somebody else is controlling my body while I watch. I think psychology is so huge that its hard for every therapist to know and recognize everything, especially because there are so many specializations. Since DID/OSDD are more complex forms of PTSD, you or other alters might experience the symptoms of complex PTSD. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. They have similar names but not the same names .. You can read that article by clicking here. Depersonsaliation/derealisation disorder sounds complicated and scary. Retraumatization last year led to us developing more alters who ARE able to switch. I'm interested in hearing yall's experiences! You might feel like your body is unrecognizable, unreal, or doesnt reflect who you are. Thanks. Of course they are not, and their experience is valid exactly because it is their experience. Some people with OSDD may prefer the company of people with dissociative identity disorder who keep their parts as much as possible in the background in public situations, but still the lack of distinct parts can be felt to be in some way as if they are getting it wrong. So not all information on this website might apply to your situation or be helpful to you; please, use caution. Emotional neglect can lead to a pretty profound disconnection from yourself; depersonalization, depression, a sense of purposelessness. I appreciate it and will share it on my tumblr. Feeling those feelings, thinking the thoughts of that child and feeling his body as it had been used. This is a short informational carrd on DID/OSDD-1. In fact, OSDD is meant to be a broad category that encompasses many partial DID experiences. Highly recommend reading. And we plan to reference this page often. It should be kept in mind that some systems use the term trigger to refer to both positive and negative stimuli that can catch an alter's attention. I can watch everything that Im saying and doing, but its like I cant do anything about it and I dont know whats going to happen next. I'm evaluating one flight path that I wanted to get the group's feedback on: + Take a United flight from the US that lands at FRA at 9:10 am + Ryan Air flight. Barely alive, existing moment to moment, knowing I was different than others but not why I was different. We have 19+ alters, and our collective pronouns are they/them. Me saying no there isnt, I dont want to be crazy! You might find that your memory is unreliable. A cold, lonely place. These alters protect the main identity from awareness of trauma. Thanks to this article, I can see how I overlap into both criteria which makes sense to not have an official diagnosis. It can leave someone very unsure of their identity and wondering who they truly are. It does cause distress, but that does not indicate what type of help I should be looking for. 1a systems have loss of memory between system members, but their members are not significantly distinct from each other, while 1b systems have members who are distinct from each other, but dont have memory loss between members. Are you sure they don't front? Many people therefore see DID and OSDD as appearing on a spectrum, and prefer to conflate the two conditions so that DID/OSDD represents a range of dissociative experiences with more or less amnesia and greater or less elaboration and distinctive identity states or parts of the personality. The world also seems to become more fragmented during such moments, it becomes more black and white and I start to stereotype other people, too, and view the world in categories and I get an obsession with order. (Disclaimer: I'm not a professional; please do not ask me for medical advice! The Plural Association is the first and only grassroots, volunteer and peer-led nonprofit empowering Plurals. I would love to feel I knew what I was and that I could give a name to something. There are four presentations of OSDD listed in the DSM-5: In practice, subtype 1 is much more common than the others. People with DID/OSDD are on their own spectrum--based on how much amnesia they have and/or how separate and distinct their alters are. So not all information on this website might apply to your situation or be helpful to you; please, use caution. And in the UK, medical staff tend to prefer the diagnostic manual known as the ICD-10 (International Classification of Diseases, version 10) published by the World Health Organisation which is notoriously backward in addressing dissociative disorders. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. [1] There are four listed example presentations of OSDD, but what qualifies as OSDD, or what OSDD can look like, is very diverse. Switching refers to one alter taking control of the body, being given control by another alter, or gaining prominence over another alter. I think it would make sense for my experience to be a spectrum than necessarily one or the other. Sometimes might you feel like you are watching yourself, as if you are having an out of body experience. I dont related in any intimate way to friends or lovers I remain unattached and dont know how to be intimate or close to anyone .. The good news is that 1a and 1b are not the only categories for OSDD systems. Please consult a licensed professional before making any healthcare decisions or for guidance about potential mental health conditions. Also, if you can give me some more info on what this type of switching is, in what types of systems it's the most common, etc, it would be super useful! yeah, i'm sure. And very few people with apparently diagnosed dissociative identity disorder that I have met claim to have full memory of their past, with no amnesia at any time which would seem to contradict their diagnosis. [Glossary] [Resources]. But also when Im like that, I cant do other things I normally can, like tell the time. Pain where self inflicted death was a viable option. I've had alters who have sabotaged my life and done awful things. Wanting to be better but not knowing what was wrong. That would be considered OSDD-1a. To read more about the cookies we use, please read our privacy policy here. ", This website uses cookies in order to analyze visitor trends. I think complex trauma also covers other issues like war and political torture but mostly we use it to think about people whove been abused and neglected as children . I previously felt it was a weakness , a personality defect where I sometimes I feel like a child very frightened unable to speak to adults . Like I was talking to friends the other day and brushing my teeth, and suddenly it felt like I was a different height and my own sink felt unfamiliar. It should be said that OSDD systems who have shared memory with their system tend to have a leg up over systems who have memory gaps. But the onslaught and angry and aggressive voices waging violence against me in my head was a daily, constant battle. Welcome to r/OSDD, a community for those affected by otherwise specified dissociative disorder. So what is the solution? These other parts of me arent clear though theyre not distinct. Not a life others would want though. These intrusions may vary in strength and influence and may result in the fronting alter taking actions or voicing opinions that they can't explain or account for. A wonderful article by the nonprofit Beauty After Bruises, run by volunteers with complex trauma & dissociative disorders and their loved ones + supporters. (the latter will also bring up a lot of worker/management negotiation stuff too. So partial amnesia and/or brain fog during a switch is still DID? Some people with DID may resent the multiple personalities connotation, but at times it is the easiest way of explaining it to other people when time is short or openness limited. This seems to me to be a real issue that again the DSM criteria do not sufficiently address. As someone who lives in the States, but plans to move to the UK at the earliest availability, this also helped urge us to get our treatment while we can. And even if it is there is likely a trauma based reason. Caring was beyond me, only existing moment to moment, hoping not to be hurt anymore, drifting deeper into insanity. I literally switch between stereotypes sometimes, shallow charicatures (no identity take-over) of other people or animals, without amnesia. Other Specified Dissociative Disorder (OSDD) is a diagnosis within the DSM-V covering chronic & disruptive dissociative symptoms that do not fit the full criteria of any dissociative disorder. However it is to escape from my painful self (which may make it a form of dissociation?) In fact, OSDD is meant to be a broad category that encompasses many "partial DID" experiences. But mostly the books above ^. Wait, is whole possible now? You might lose a lot of details or misremember the important bits. It can be very exciting to be able to get to know a new person thats probably going to end up being an important figure in your life! It is also what happens in practice: very few people would realistically distinguish between DID and OSDD. Total psychological, emotional and physical recall of events. Our works, including resources like this, are only possible because of support from Plurals and our allies. This may manifest as ego-alien thoughts, feelings, emotions, opinions, preferences, urges, or actions. b) People who are somewhere in the "middle" of this "spectrum", i.e. the thing is, they can't front, like, ever. We often simply say we are a dissociative system and nothing more, because our alters are fully fledged and individual (to the extent we recognize as such), but experience hardly any amnesia aside from large portions of childhood. So on the one hand we have a vast swathe of people who are, or would be, diagnosed with OSDD as opposed to dissociative identity disorder but who show almost all of the symptoms of DID. You might feel afraid or shamed of the possibility of others finding out your thoughts. It doesnt feel like me, and when Im like that I can remember things that I dont remember the rest of the time, although Im always worried that Im making it up. Welcome to r/OSDD, a community for those affected by otherwise specified dissociative disorder. As long as we have a pragmatic and even utilitarian view of diagnosis that leads people towards recovery and health, I think were near enough on the right tracks. Honestly, you've described my early teens well. I learned an overwhelming amount about the details of what happens between genetics and environment to create the dissociative symptoms and how it relates to the spectrum; so much makes sense to my situation and I learned about eco therapy, and a few of the suggestions I have not tried yet! I also advocate against ableism and harassment. Previously called MPD (Multiple Personality Disorder), this disorder is categorized by the action of switching . For example Colin Ross (2007, p.142) says: The dividing line between DID and most cases of dissociative disorder not otherwise specified is arbitrary. It allowed us to finally explore our system on our own terms without worrying about any sorts of theoretical rules about how we should be. Other specified dissociative disorder ( OSDD) is a mental health diagnosis for pathological dissociation that matches the DSM-5 criteria for a dissociative disorder, but does not fit the full criteria for any of the specifically identified subtypes, which include dissociative identity disorder, dissociative amnesia, and The Dissociative Identity Disorder Sourcebook by Haddock, Deborah Bray on the development of DID. Theyre as much of a person as you are. Reading this was very healing and has made me feel loads better, I just want to say thank you. A hurricane raging above. It can be highly disorienting for those involved and can interfere with memory formation, concentration, and remaining covert (that is, not appearing visibly mentally ill to others). When she explained the differences, in a way I could easily understand, it did make sense. But I know its more than that. Switches can be slow, quick, or uncontrollably rapid. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Get to know them. Besides that, there are many, many more symptoms that are very common. 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